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SEO urlSo last week, I wrote two (lengthy) posts about why subdirectories are (usually) better than subdomains for your SEO efforts and why subdirectories are (usually) better than subdomains for your brand efforts. Then, yesterday, I go ahead and announce my new travel vertical blog, “TravelStuff” by using—wait for it—a subdomain instead of a subdirectory (“travelstuff.timpeter.com” instead of “timpeter.com/travelstuff”).

Now, if you were like me, it probably drove you nuts as as kid when your mom and dad said, “Do as I say, not as I do.” (Sorry, Dad, if you’re reading this. And you know you are.)

Anyway, what gives? Why am I telling you to do as I say, not as I do?

Well, ignoring for a moment that I’m not your mom or dad (unless my kids are reading this… yeah, that will happen), I’m going to point out a weasel clause from the branding piece:

“Some services—usually social sites like YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Flickr, and Slideshare—can help you build your brand and require using their URL with your brand and/or a generic identifier appended to it. Obviously, if the service helps you meet the needs of your customers and doesn’t offer you a better URL option, then go with their URL scheme.”

As it happens, I’ve used Wordpress to host TravelStuff since I started it a little over 5 years ago. At the time, it was a convenient way of capturing notes and links and thoughts. Now, I could move all that content over to my Dreamhost-powered blogging platform (i.e., the one that “Thinks” sits on), create a new “Travel Stuff” category for each of the blog posts, incorporate the category scheme on “TravelStuff” into the “Thinks” categories, setup a 301-redirect from Wordpress to timpeter.com and pray that all the lovely link juice continued to flow.

Or I could hit myself in the head with a hammer.

The second one sounds like more fun.

Happily, Wordpress provides an alternative (as do most other blogging platforms): You can set up a redirect to Wordpress from your primary domain (timpeter.com, in this case), but only as a subdomain. In other words, I can continue to host “TravelStuff” on Wordpress and send traffic to it as though it’s part of the timpeter.com network. What I can’t do is redirect that traffic using timpeter.com/insert-blog-name-here, only insert-blog-name-here.timpeter.com.

“Wait-a-minnit,” you say. “Can’t I just use ‘Insert-Blog-Name-Here.com’ and skip the subdomain troubles? Doesn’t Wordpress support that, too?”

Yes, they do.

But it brings me to the second point of the weasel clause:

“My rule of thumb is always optimize for customers first, search engines second. There’s also an argument that having your brand appear on multiple sites as either a subdomain or subdirectory can help you dominate the search results page for your brand. It’s a great idea and worth exploring if you’ve got the bandwidth to support it. But put the focus first on what helps your customers.”

As I’d mentioned in the branding piece, cutting through the clutter requires a.) cash, and b.) consistency. Wherever possible, I put all my work on the timpeter.com domain. My brand is Tim Peter & Associates. The blog is called “Tim Peter Thinks.” I’m Tim Peter on LinkedIn. And so on.

In this case, it was more important for me to keep brand consistency and reduce clutter for customers by using travelstuff.timpeter.com than to try and grow another brand. In other words, I chose the best available option for my customers and for my business.

By which I mean to underscore both of my prior posts. In the real world, SEO is one consideration. A major consideration, sure. But only one of them. Ultimately, in the real world, we make our decisions based on a number of factors. If I could go back in time and set up TravelStuff from scratch, would I choose to do it differently? Probably. But if I could go back in time, where I hosted a blog focused on a customer vertical still wouldn’t be the first thing I worried about.

Maybe somewhere down the road I’ll move TravelStuff to a subdirectory and do everything all right and proper.

But, in the meantime, I will focus on creating the right content to meet the needs of my readers, regardless of where it’s hosted. And I continue to recommend the same to you.


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SEOA reader, Zen, emailed a couple of weeks ago about using subdomains for blogs and said:

“I have a blog that has been sitting on WordPress for about 3 years. (The URL format is CompanyName.Wordpress.com) and I want to know if it’s true that, for SEO purposes, you are way better off having your blog reside on your website because WordPress is a subdomain so you will never receive the true benefits of SEO for your company… I’m considering changing my blog’s URL to a personal domain like CompanyNameBlog.com or CompanyWebsite.com/blog.”

Now, first off, I am a huge fan of small business blogs, both for their SEO benefit as well as for providing valuable information to customers. But Zen’s question really asks two things:

  1. What, if any, SEO benefits exist in hosting your blog outside your domain?
  2. What brand benefits exist when you host your blog outside your domain?

The first question gets into a hairy bit of technical SEO while the second relates more to brand strategy. Today we’ll look at the SEO side and tomorrow we’ll explore brand implications.

Let’s dive right in, shall we?

Are Subdomains Bad for SEO?

What is a Subdomain?

When looking at blogs, or any other content on a website, you’ll usually run into one of four common domain options. The question is, which works best for you on an SEO basis:

  1. www.YourBrand.com/YourBlog
  2. YourBlog.YourBrand.com
  3. YourBlog.SomeoneElsesBrand.com
  4. www.YourBLOG.com

Now, without dirtying our hands with the gory details, the part of the web address URL that appears before YourBrand and SomeoneElsesBrand (either www or YourBlog in example #’s 2 and 3 above) is called the subdomain. When “YourBlog” appears after “.com,” as in example #1, it is typically called the path, folder or subdirectory. And #4 is typically called the host, hostname, or just the domain. (If you actually are interested in the gory details, see Matt Cutts’ excellent overview on the parts of a URL).

Got that? Good. Let’s jump into the meat of the discussion then.

Subdomains and SEO

So, to answer Zen’s initial question, do subdomains hurt your company from an SEO perspective? The answer, as with most things SEO-related, is a bit tricky.

A blog hosted on a subdomain, as in examples #2 and #3 (as well as in Zen’s initial question) will receive SEO benefit the same as any other site. No research I could find suggests that subdomains are any better or worse in terms of their own ranking on search engines (whether they’re a good idea for your business is another matter; more on that in a moment). As long as the subdomain offers substantially distinct content, Google and the other search engines index and rank subdomains the same way they would any other website. In fact, according to a survey on SEOmoz, having strong keywords in a subdomain can improve your SEO rank for that keyword phrase.

However, there are several arguments against using subdirectories:

  1. Search engines treat subdomains as though they are a separate entity from your primary domain. This one’s a biggie. In Zen’s question, using Wordpress to host your blog isn’t a bad thing and doesn’t hurt the SEO opportunities for the blog. However, that SEO benefit doesn’t accrue to your primary domain, which is typically what you want. By this standard, option #2 isn’t great (you’re benefiting the blog, but not YourBrand.com) and #3 is particularly bad: you’re benefiting SomeElsesBrand.com and not yours.
  2. Managing subdomains can be a beast. Do you know what DNS and CNAME records are? Do you want to? Yeah, me neither (I already know far more than I want to about ‘em). Unless you’re ready, willing, and able to take on the management overhead, subdirectories often prove more trouble than they’re worth.

For these reasons, I don’t usually recommend subdomains for your small business blog (there are a couple of caveats I talk about below). But if you have the option, using a folder (option #1 above), is usually best.

So, When Are Subdomains a Good Idea?

While a few use cases exist where subdomains might be the right answer, there are two typical scenarios where you’ll run into them:

  1. Highly localized content. Companies that offer content to specific languages or local areas often use subdomains targeted at those linguistic/geographic markets. For example, if I were to begin offering content in French for customers in Montreal, I might use fr.timpeter.com to distinguish the content from the rest of my site. By the same token, “hyper-local” news site, such as Patch.com, often use individual subdomains to build the local brand independent of the larger, “parent” brand (see peekskill.patch.com or bradenton.patch.com for real-world examples).
  2. Your hosting company prevents you from installing blogging software. Sometimes using a third-party blogging platform and a subdomain may be your only choice from an operational/technical standpoint. If you lack the skills/expertise/funds/desire to manage your hosting platform, then setting up a blog on Wordpress, Tumblr, Blogger.com or TypePad using their subdomain may be your best option. You can always assign these blogs a subdomain using YourBrand or YourBlog.com (options #2 and #4 above) at a later date if you need to.

What About Folders/Subdirectories?

Folders/subdirectories (option #1 above) eliminate most of the challenges associated with subdomains and provide direct SEO benefit to your domain in most normal cases. For that reason, I recommend them and use them for almost everything I do.

What’s the downside? Well, like anything, subdirectories come with their own challenges. For one, you typically have to install blogging software on your host and manage it yourself (or pay IT professionals to do it for you). Happily, many hosting companies offer one-click installs and upgrades to streamline the process (it’s one of reasons I use Dreamhost [affiliate link]).

But, unless you’re dealing with the “highly localized scenario” outlined above (or fall into the rare case where you need the specific benefits of a ccTLD as outlined below), subdirectories are usually a good choice until you’re fully confident another option’s benefits outweigh its downsides. Matt Cutts made a similar recommendation a few years ago and I’ve yet to see him contradict it.

What about YourBlog.com?

Ah… now this is a juicy one. But, it gets into questions of branding more than SEO, so let’s tackle that tomorrow, OK?

Conclusion

Any choice you make regarding domains, subdomains, or subdirectories has some consequence from an SEO standpoint. When in doubt, I recommend subdirectories because they drive all the SEO value to a single domain. Unless you have a case where you don’t want that to happen, they’re usually the right choice (at least until Google changes its algorithm again).

Whew… that was a handful, huh? Curious about what domains do for your brand? Check back tomorrow for part 2.

ccTLD Note: The specific example used here generally only makes sense when you’re offering languages within a market, say Spanish-language content for Spanish-speaking customers living in the United States or French-language content for Francophones in Canada. When you’re targeting customers in a specific country, using a separate ccTLD (that’s country code Top Level Domain), is often a better approach. So, if you’re targeting customers in France, for example (as opposed to French-speaking customers in another country), using the domain YourBrand.fr can provide better SEO results than YourBrand.com/fr/. Your mileage may vary, of course, and the operational overhead of offering a fully localized site is non-trivial (to say nothing of the fact that some ccTLD’s, such as China, can require significant operational expertise in the market). Unless you’re actively trying to build business in a given market, don’t stress about it too much. And if you are actively trying to build business in a given market, drop me a line to learn how I can help.


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I’m getting ready to update my How To Build Your Small Business Blog Guide. And the thought occurred to me: Should you still have a small business blog? I mean, we’ve got Facebook and Twitter and LinkedIn and YouTube and Foursquare and Google+ and Tumblr and who knows what else coming down the pike. With all those other places out there do you still need a blog for your business? Are blogs still relevant halfway through Twenty-Eleven?

Yes.

And not just yes, but “Hell, Yes!”

Why? Simple.

With all these places for customers to engage with your content, your customers need a “home base” that aggregates it all in one place. I’ve always called it a “hub-spoke” model, where your website (and, by extension, your blog), provide the hub, while the other social tools provide spokes, outposts and beachheads into your customers’ lives.

Hub spoke model

Plus, according to SEOmoz’s bi-annual ranking factors survey, 68% of their panel still say links and on-site keywords are the most influential aspects in search engine rankings (with social signals expected to rise). Without fresh, interesting content, how are you going to grow the keywords on your site? What are people going to link to, Tweet about, blast on Facebook and share with their Google+ Circles? And where else would you want those links to point than to your website and to your blog?

So, yes. You should still think about having a blog.

Or better yet, don’t think about it. Get to work on it instead.



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