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Improve business performanceWe’ve spent some time this week looking at why you should redesign your website and how much a redesign costs. To finish out the week, here’s a round-up of other design and website improvement links from the Thinks archives as well as other sources. Enjoy!

  1. If you’re not ready to do a full redesign, but still want to improve your customer’s experience, our Web Analytics Fundamentals Series, looked at ways to learn what’s working on your website. We’ve also highlighted quick ways to identify what’s important to fix on your site.
  2. Once you’ve identified the greatest areas of need, you can check out this simple tip to improve your site’s conversion rate and our 6 ways to improve your bounce rate.
  3. Speaking of fixing your bounce rate, long-time FOT Linda Bustos (that’s Friend of Thinks, for you new folks), explains that, in addition to improving your website business, bounce rate can improve your search rankings, too.
  4. Of course, as you make improvements, A/B tests can help ensure you’re getting the greatest benefit. But if you’re new to A/B testing, check out what an A/B test looks like and our ultimate A/B case study roundup for a better understanding of how A/B tests work.
  5. If you’re still not convinced you want to try A/B testing, take a look at why A/B testing is always the right answer.
  6. Next, avoid common but simple mistakes on your site by reviewing our e-commerce errors roundup.
  7. Check out Whitney Wilding’s thoughts at GrokDotCom about determining, tracking and calculating your site goals.
  8. You also might want to review these 4 steps to improving your landing page’s performance.
  9. And, finally, finish your day by looking at 5 common mistakes killing your online marketing.

Whether you choose to redesign your entire site, or just do some “spring cleaning,” I hope these tips set you up for loads of success going forward.


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How much to redesign?Continuing our discussion about site redesigns, one of the top questions I get about redesigning your website is how much a good redesign costs. And, let me cut right to the chase to say there’s no one answer to this question. But, before you storm off saying, “That’s what I thought you’d say,” let me offer some insight into how you can answer the question for yourself. This is going to be a longer post than usual, but I hope you’ll hang with me on this one and think through how this approach would work in your environment.

Thinking about how much a website costs approaches the problem from the wrong end. Building a website is a little like building a house. Once you cover the basics (e.g., four walls, electrical, plumbing and a roof), what you want and need beyond that is up to you.

Instead, it’s a question of what you need your website to do for you and what it’s worth to you to get it. If your business generates $400,000 each year in revenue, then even if your website accounts for 100% of that revenue, the redesign better not cost you more than you’ll get in return. By the same token, a $400 million per year business can’t reasonably expect to support its needs for just $19.95/month. It’s more a question of achieving the right return on your investment and following the right process to make sure that happens.

Let me show you a (heavily simplified and anonymized) example of how this works in the real world. While the numbers reflect a large organization, the process works equally well for a small business.

I led a major redesign project a few years back for a company whose e-commerce site produced about $15 million annually in web direct revenue. This example ignores site traffic that turned into phone calls, walk-in traffic to stores, etc., just like we did in the actual case.

To start, my team identified a series of improvements to the user experience that we believed could generate at least a 15% lift in web direct business. Additionally, we had the ability to pay back the money over a three-year period. So, the total value of the improvements to the company was $6.75 million ($15 million x 15% x 3 years).

So to begin setting our budget, we did two things:

  1. Based our payback estimates on incremental revenues of 7.5% (half the expected lift).
  2. Assumed one year payback (leaving any incremental revenue generated in years 2+ to go straight to the bottom line).

In other words, the question was what was the minimum amount of incremental revenue we’d need to generate at a 7.5% lift and break even in the first year? That gave us clear direction for our target budget, in this case just over $1.1 million ($15 million x 7.5% x 1 year payback). In addition, it helped us prioritize the enhancements best suited to achieving that lift.

After looking at our requirements and working with our development staff on requirements, we further trimmed that to $950,000. Not a bad investment to generate $6.75 million (again, for brevity, this example ignores things like depreciation, amortization, use of capex vs. opex, NPV analysis, etc.—in practice the actual numbers were even more attractive).

To be even more sure of ourselves, we spent roughly 10% of the budget (about $90,000) on various tests to validate our assumptions. After all, better to spend a little bit (in relative terms) to prove our assumptions than waste a million dollars and find out we were wrong (check out my friend Douglas Hubbard’s risk management blog for more on this approach to project initiation). Happily, our initial tests showed our assumptions were, if anything, too conservative; we proceeded with the full project and were rewarded with better than 35% lift for each of the next two years.

Now, obviously, many of you aren’t redesigning a multi-million dollar site. But, the same approach makes sense—in fact, I’d argue it makes even more sense—when dealing with a smaller site. So, here’s the approach again:

  1. Calculate how much revenue your site creates today. And, usually, it is a good idea to include emails, foot traffic to stores and phone calls if they’re important to your business. As many sites don’t have an e-commerce component, you want to ensure you understand exactly how the website contributes to the business. Your website likely creates more revenue than you realize (and if it doesn’t, underscores the importance of redesigning). You don’t need to do anything too crazy. Even a simple survey of your customers can help you determine how many were on the site before buying and should help evaluate your site’s impact on your business.
  2. Estimate the amount of lift you can expect. This is the tough one, so err on the side of caution here, but 10%-15% is not abnormal. While you’re likely to get greater benefit than that, expecting a 50% lift is never “a conservative estimate.” The key once you’ve determined the target lift is to prioritize those improvements most likely to clear that bar. If you’re feeling particularly confident, include increases for both conversion rate and traffic from improved SEO.

Additionally, you can include a payback period greater than a year if you don’t need all the revenue in year 1. But, unlike many capital investments, you never want to plan on more than 3 years depreciation. In my experience, by the time the site is 3 years old, you’re either going to start thinking about your next redesign or will have done enough enhancements, A/B tests, and the like that your initial deliverables will be on their way out.

Using this process, a site generating a few hundred thousand dollars in revenue would look at least a $20,000-$30,000 budget, a site generating a million dollars might consider between $50,000 and $100,000, a $10 million business might look at $500,000+ and so on. Obviously, if you’re able to invest more, great. And if you achieve your target results for less, that’s great, too. This approach isn’t designed to calculate to the last penny, but it should give you a quick, back of the envelope estimate of what you can expect to spend.

Determining the exact amount to spend on your website is not a simple process. There’s no one true answer. But, with a little bit of planning and foresight, you can get a rough estimate of both what you want your site to do for you and what you’re willing to pay to make that happen. A great website is a serious investment in your business and is worth the work to get it right. And if you need more help with this model for your business, drop me a line. I’ll be happy to help you through it.


Are you getting enough value out of your small business website? Want to make sure your business makes the most of the local, mobile, social web? thinks helps you understand how to grow your business via the web, every day. Get more than just news. Get understanding. Add thinks to your feed reader today.

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Tim Peter & Associates helps companies from startups to the Fortune 500 use the web to reach more customers, more effectively every day. Take a look and see how we can help you.

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